Thursday, February 18, 2010

Blog #2: Question 5

Question #5: Critic D.C.R.A. Goonetilleke suggests the following: “It is against conventional middle-class values that Nora rebels. Of course, she has been made to believe that she was happy, that she was an ideal wife, and that her husband loves her, and she was living with the belief that an ideal husband like hers would, if the necessity arose, sacrifice his life to save her reputation. It is these illusions that are shattered at the end.” If this is so, to which values does the author refer? Against which elements of middle-class society might Nora rebel?

The author is referring to the middle-class values of a women taking care of her children, taking care of the daily chores, and taking care of her husband who will always be there for her. The value that the men is always the one that brings home the money and holds the respect and the women is to be there to support her man and take care of his children and the house they share together. Nora's beliefs were shattered at the end of the play when Torvald reads the letter from Krogstad, explaining how Nora borrowed money to help Torvald when he was ill. Torvald was so angry that she would go against his wishes to borrow money, he unleashed harsh words that he would never be able to take back. Not only did Nora borrow money she also worked old demeaning jobs so that she could pay back the loan she borrowed. Based on Torvald's reactions I would say that he was embarrassed that his wife would put him in the position of losing face with work employees and in his social standing with his friends and family. He is a man of some wealth and he was betrayed by his wife when she went behind his back to barrow money, even if it was to save his life. How she could not follow what it was he hold her was truly a slap in his face. Nora rebels at the end in the fact that she doesn't want to say in a marriage that has no true meaning. What she thought she had was all one big lie and she found out that her husband didn't love her he just treated her like one of the children. Why would a women want to live in a situation where they have no real respect, appreciation, or true happiness. She rebels because she is willing to leave her live to find something better.


Tuesday, February 16, 2010

Question 7: The Things They Carried

I think Smiley could have used the term “de-gender” with the intention of carrying a couple of different meanings. It seems Smiley is implying that O’Brien included female characters to show that war doesn’t only affect those directly involved in it. It is mentioned more than once in the story that Martha’s letters never actually discuss the war itself, and only reference it when saying, “Jimmy, take care of yourself.” Obviously, it has affected her because she never discusses it directly. Also, I think Smiley could be referencing how the characters are shown as being very human. Sometimes they hide their true feelings, while at other times there are direct displays of feelings of guilt, sadness, anger, loss, betrayal, frustration, longing, love, and happiness. I think the stereotypical soldier at war is depicted as being stoic and unaffected. O’Brien brought to life the human side of war, thereby (as Smiley stated) re-defining American masculinity.

Blog 2 Question # 3 - "Wild Nights--Wild nights"

After reading this poem a few times, I don't feel that Dickinson was talking about a conventional relationship and/or a role as a "wife"

My interpretation of the poem is that she is a woman that has desires. Desires that go beyond what may have been considered the norm for women. She wants to be free to express herself, whether it's in a relationship, having a fling, or just by herself. These desires can be physically, emotionally, or even sexually.

"Rowing in Eden! Ah! the sea! Might I but moor, To-night in thee!"

I think Eden implies the Garden of Eden, which is suppose to be a very beautiful place that is full of life and has everything that you need. Yet looking beyond the land to the sea she has a feeling there is something more out there for her.

This poem also seems to reflect a past memory of what she could have done differently or even perhaps what she yearns to have.

"Were I with thee, Wild nights should be, Our luxury!"

She wants to experience the luxury of something beyond her current reach. There seems to be an unknown place that she's searching for.

Blog 2, Question 4, A Doll House

Cherice Franklin


Henrik Ibsen’s play A Doll House focuses on fatherhood in which all of the male characters in the play are portrayed as absent and negligent fathers; some too busy with work, like Torvald Helmer, the main character’s wife and Dr. Rank’s father who because of his promiscuity caused his son to be born with tuberculosis of the spine. Because Ibsen’s play was written during the late 1800’s in an era of male dominance in which the men were the bread winners he does put emphasis on his descriptions of all of the male characters, such as with Anne Marie, the maid’s baby’s father who left her with a child; when she refers to him as a “slippery fish”, she says it as though it was an action that was regularly done and was unsurprising. The title of the play, A Doll House, sardonically is about a woman who is “playing house” and as acting like the trophy wife, however, throughout the play she is seen as the inferior without any genuine feelings, or aspirations and who is also dependent upon her husband who is a workaholic. Because there were hardly and descriptions of the women being proficient in their lives further justifies the inadequacy of women during the time the play was written.
Ibsen was wise to put more emphasis on the male characters in the play because it allows his audience to be able to understand the role of the dominant male character while giving the reader the idea that women were needy, such as when Mrs. Linde, Nora’s friend asks how Nora was able to take out a loan without her husband’s signature. Ibsen’s descriptions helps the reader to understand the position of men and women.

Blog 2 Question 7

Question 7. The Things They Carried. I chose this blog because it looked like the hardest to reply to. What does Smiley mean by “de-gender” war? I am not exactly sure. The only thing I can think of is by introducing men and the experience of woman-like feelings in the picture of war, he is able to strip the masculinity from war, and paint war with more sensitivity. He introduces feelings like pain, fear, and love, feelings commonly felt by women, but relates them with men, and shows that men can feel vulnerable even as women can. This may be useful because with all gendered stereotypes down, men can channel their emotions more effectively. In “The Things They Carried,” love and fear is always hidden, but never talked about. Jimmy Cross daydreams in secret, and this leads to Lavender's death. The story redefines American masculinity by allowing men to carry “emotional baggage,” (809). Women are typically related to being more emotional, but here in this story men must carry terror, love, and longing.

blog 2 #7

By de-gendering the war the author attempted to neutralize the gender specific topic. Some associate war as being dominated by masculinity, fighting, killing, victorious, etc. The author shows a different perspective of the men at war, like when Jimmy expressed deep sorrow for the loss of one of his men, and how much women do/did play a big part of war not just the men. During that time women did enjoy life outside of war but by sending letter it sparked hope and desire in the men at war life. Jimmy was so consumed with Martha that his war persona was affected with the thought of Martha and he hurt and you could feel the intensity of pain due to his inability to protect his time because he had this image of love in his mind constantly. Which I feel does de-gender the war because you read a lot about their feelings, uncertainties, and fears.

#7, The Things They Carried

In my opinion, the meaning of “de-gender” is another approach to present the situation of war. We, the readers, already know what is the basic characteristic of war is; masculinity. Ironically, it is true, not only because of inequality of men and women in terms of physical conditions or the role in war, but also the cruelty and inhumane circumstance of war by itself makes the whole atmosphere very “tough”. It is actually no matter the individual soldier or anybody in the war was a male or a female, the basis of war never changed for the individual, which is to kill people and win against the enemy. I think that “The Things They Carried” approached to this situation by adding another factor from outside of war, in other words, the third party, to break down and re-define this traditional masculinity of war. As Martha converses to Jim Cross in a letter, there’s both a connection and a disconnection between the ordinary life and a life in war; connection by expressing her feeling to Jim, but also it is disconnected because of their two completely different living environments, making them unable to overcome the limitation of distance and such a gap between the war and an ordinary life. Eventually, readers might notice that war should not be done for any reason for its violence, but also they might know whether the point of view of war is gender-neutral or masculinity, there’s such a difficulty at war to exercise what could have been done in ordinary life.

2. somewhere i have never travelled

The first thing I noticed from this poem is the imagery and how descriptive he was. Reading the poem I could clearly imagine what he was describing, however, imagery is not the only rhetorical device he uses to express his feelings about love. E. E. Cummings also uses metaphors in his poem, for example "you open always petal by petal myself as spring opens (touching skilfully, mysteriously) her first rose" Here he tries to explain to us the actions and feelings of love with something that everyone is familiar with, nature. He also creates a parallel contrast when he describes how a woman can soak in his emotions, "(...only something in me understands the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses) nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands"

I agree with the author how Cummings is trying to express himself with what he feels love is. He describes all the aspects of love with great detail and showed the reader how in love he was.

3. WIld Nights! Wild Nights!

When I first read this play I had to read it again. I really don't think it's a relationship with a Husband and Wife. I think it's more of a fling. Sarah Ann Wilder speak about Dickenson came to realize the role of a wife and the way Sarah words it make sit seem like Dickenson didn't want to play a role as a wife and in her poem a line shows an example "Done with the Compass - Done with the chart!" I take that quote as she's done following expectations of how a wife or lover should be. She wants to be her own person and make her own rules on how to love someone.

When reading Wild Nights, I picture a young woman experiencing love and an affair and giving into pure desires. "Wild nights should be our luxury!" Nothing can stop her desires and nor does she want to end this fling and that her feelings won't change "Futile - the Winds - To a Heart in port."

I believe this poem isn't just about a sexual encounter. I think it's her arguement, her will not be molded into something she doesn't want to become. She doesn't just want to be the good wife like in A Doll House who does what is expected of her but does what she feels passionate about and does what she rules as love and what a wife should do.

Question 7 - The Things They Carried

The story "The things they carried" is true to it's title, as it explores the items carried by soldiers during the Vietnam war. The author, Tim O'Brien, examines the obvious physical items carried by different soldiers including certain letters, pictures, and other things that hold the promise of tomorrow back home in the U.S. O'Brien explores a much deeper meaning of "things carried" by these soldiers which includes a wide range of emotional scars that the war inflicted on these young men. When Smiley talks about "de-genderizing" the war, I believe she would like for the reader to not look at war in the typical fashion: Men go to war, women stay home and go to college; she may look at these stereotypes as perhaps damaging to those women who live under this segmentation. I personally do not see how to completely escape this depiction due to many different numerical statistics of this war and others.
When Smiley speaks of the "story re-defines American masculinity", I think she is referring to the look at what is important to the soldiers in this story, which some may think is not consistent with an "overly masculine war machine" who has little room for feelings outside the war and the job at hand. I do not think that the story redefines American masculinity, only describes it further, and showing different sides of the men who cherished the "normal" things that home meant to them. This story implies that in addition to all of the physical things that the soldiers carried with them, each with an accurate weight included, there were many more emotional burdens that outweighed the physical items.

Shane Greenup

Web Links for Week 3


Short lecture on "Things They Carried"
(this professors discusses this story as an "archetypal plot". We will study archetypes in Chapter 6, Psychological Criticism, so this may be of interest to you. If you are interested in the other three parts of this lecture (this is Part 1), you will be able to find them in the YouTube sidebar to the right.

Tim O'Brien reading his story "Things They Carried".


A Brief Montage of Images from the Vietnam War [warning: some of these images are troubling.]

Conclusion of A Doll House

Monday, February 15, 2010

Blog 2: A Doll House # 5

Ideally, most individuals think of middle class as having a comfortable standard of living, significant economic security, considerable work, autonomy and rely on their expertise to sustain themselves. Many people have different perceptions to this play, and their own moral beliefs. I think everyone enjoys freedom of expression, while being able to also make any decisions in life they choose to be correct. In this particular play I feel these things were diminished especially for Nora. To live life by perfection is physically impossible, but to maintain a healthy lifestyle by living true to your soul I think is very reasonable. Nora, I believe is trying to find herself as a person, but seems to be brought down by Torvald in many occasions. Nora I feel is trying to live a pretend lifestyle to please Torvald. It seems to me that Torvald is very demanding, and thinks Nora should be just another child in his perception to hold the upper hand. I think Nora, and Torvals have a friendship type marriage rather then a love based relationship.

Critic D.C.R.A Goonetilleke suggest the following: "It is against conventional middle class values that Nora rebels." Nora listens to her husband like a daughter or son would listen to their mother. I think she feels she has to live up to Torvalds expectations of her. He feels that she should take care of everything including him. I think a woman should never feel superior to men, and Nora definitely was. Nora had to maintain his needs, clean, and also walk on tight ropes for Torvald. I think she started to realize this, and took a stance to actually fix the issue regardless of values. Its abnormal to think the woman should do everything it should be 50/50. Torvals needed to also step up and be a father figure for his children, and a good husband with respect to Nora's needs. Trovald had her walking on egg shells while he established the role of power over woman. This is what I think the author is saying about going against middle class values as a woman.

In the end Krogstad gives the letter to Torvald he reads it, and completely disrespects Nora. How can a husband be upset because a wife is trying to save his life is beyond my belief. Nora realizes that she has been a victim trapped under a spell of power that Torvald uses against her. All she wanted was a normal relationship with Torvald but his head was so far in his career he couldn't see that. In the end she knew that her love was not strong enough for an individual to treat her like a zero. He calls her all these names like she is some kind of toy. The values I think the author is trying to say she crossed was the fact she became a different type of person, rather then a wife. Nora rebels in the since that she left Torvald, and her children because she couldn't take his demands anymore. She knows she is independent, and can take care of herself. I don't think its right to have no contact with your children. I'm not sure if she does or not because it didn't state that. I do feel she made the right decision in the end because no woman needs to be treated like a dog. Although she left her children does not mean she doesn't love them. I think she will maintain contact with them. In the end you have to ask yourself this question can love be strong enough to give up your since of dignity, and possible your life with a husband like Torvald? I think love does take everything you got, but it should not take over your pride as a individual by any means.

Blog 2, Question 4

In Doll House, the story very much revolves around the theme of parenting. Initially, I believed it exposed the nature of women as mothers more than the nature of men as fathers, however reading the quote by Paul Rosefeldt has convinced me to believe that the nature of fatherhood is equally or more important than motherhood. Doll House has several examples such as Dr. Rank whose father’s poor choices has led to Dr. Rank’s unfortunate illness. There is a sense of having to pay for transgressions that Dr. Rank expresses, the transgressions of his father. It appears that Dr. Rank has made profound observations about fatherhood here, that his father is responsible for his personal misfortune. This continues with observations through many other characters.

Mrs. Linde’s father is also seen as absent throughout her difficult life. Through her mother’s illness and having to care for her brothers, all the burden and responsibility is diffused on her. She has to manage to care for her entire family and therefore puts aside her desire to marry who she wants. Instead of marrying Krogstad, who is the man she loves, she has to go through years of labor for her mother. Although this is not a direct reflection of fatherhood, we see the effects of a father absent in a family. The lack of a father present in the family seems to make life more difficult with all of the burdens of responsibility placed on Mrs. Linde. One can therefore see subsequently why Mrs. Linde is so apathetic about the death of her husband, because the lack of a father may have hardened her to never fully want to love a man. This is pure conjecture, however the absence of a parent especially a father in Mrs. Linde’s case, may have negative effects on an individual.

As far as the main characters go, Torvald and Norah are essential because the play establishes motherhood and fatherhood through both of them. Examining Norah shows a mother and wife that is loving and respectful initially, however after discovering her act of forgery, she is seen as deceptive. Norah fears her children will be corrupt because of her and therefore decides to leave. There is a great deal of examination of motherhood through Norah, however there is also an examination of fatherhood through Torvald. Torvald believes that a father is not as influential to his children as a mother would be, however in today’s society that notion is completely false. Many broken families from the inner city or ghetto are families without a father figure, having detrimental effects on children as they grow up. Torvald believes at one point in the play that because Norah has been deceitful she should not interact with their children for fear that she will corrupt them. However it seems that Torvald’s constant struggle to maintain his image has usurped his desire to be a true, loving husband and father. This in turn has caused Norah to eventually leave Torvald for manufacturing her as a doll that he manipulates in order to maintain his status and image in society. It ultimately falls on Torvald for not being a genuinely loving father and husband that the family in the end falls apart. His lack of duties to serve his family out of love has made Norah see who Torvald really is deep inside as a self centered individual. His children will eventually realize the lackadaisical approach Torvald takes as a father, believing he has little influence over his children than a mother would, and maybe becoming more “corrupt” because of him, ironically. His inability to be a true family man has shown that fatherhood is important for the wellbeing of a family as much as or maybe more than motherhood is.

Question 7 The Things They Carried

I believe that what Smiley means by “de-gender” war is that it takes the John Wayne machismo out. War stories have long been stories of male heroics, running into battle against all odds, and coming out triumphant. The Things They Carried reads more like a diary; the details are what give it the feeling of being “gender neutral.” Women don’t know what it is like to be in a war, it is something that has been known exclusively to men, and therefore the stories of war have belonged to men. O’Brien opens the story up to women by bringing in elements that are tangible to women, such as with Jimmy Cross, re-reading his letters from Martha, and carrying the pebble in his mouth. The daydreaming, and holding onto something in order to take a break from the real world, and mentally go to another place, these are not gender exclusive. Even breaking down the exact weights of items they carried, neutralizes the story in that we can all feel every pound.
I think it re-defines American masculinity by talking about the fear. Masculinity in the past meant to show no fear; in this case these men are acting in spite of it, crawling through the tunnels, carrying their good luck charms. They are not looking to be heroes, just to live.

Blog 2: A Doll House #5

The era in which the story A Doll House takes place in is an era that women have been fighting against since the dawning of time. The relationship between Nora and Torvald is not a marriage but a father/daughter relationship. In that I mean that Nora is not treated like a wife, she is treated like Torvald's child. Nora finally realizes her position with Torvald at the end of the story when Torvald expresses his true feelings toward her about the revealing letter Krogstad has written to Torvald explaining how Nora borrowed money behind Torvald's back and going against his wishes of never having to borrow money from anyone for anything. Torvald's ranting had finally ended when everything was cleared up and Nora received her note back. But that was only the beginning for Nora. The critic D.C.R.A. Goonetilleke commented that Nora had gone against conventional middle-class values by acting rebellious against her husband. The values Nora went against was to stand by her husband and do as he told her to do and to not do anything else unless told otherwise. She had had enough with Torvald treating her like she was not capable of anything and by the nicknames Torvald gave her were suggestively demeaning. He would call her names such as "stubborn delicate creature," "his little songbird," "his little squirrel," all of which suggest that she is merely a woman and is subordinate to her husband. She broke the code of a wife when she went against her husband. She went even further by leaving him and their family and venturing off to find herself. In this story, a wife did not need to find herself, she was already a wife and that was that. But not for Nora, she did not want to live her life with someone who treated her as not an equal but as a pretty little thing.

1.“Let Not the Marriage of True Minds . . .”

No one has seen 100% true love; however Shakespeare thinks that it definitely exists.

If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved. (13,14)

Shakespeare is considering his own life and thinking about what he should have done.

Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds. (2,3)

Throughout Shakespeare’s life he encountered brief glimpses of perfect love. At the end of his life he attempts to compound those encounters in this soliloquy. This is what Shakespeare, who died in 1616, felt was absolutely necessary to tell the world before he died. He wanted to give his society his definition of love.

Sunday, February 14, 2010

Week 3 Blog Topics

1.“Let Not the Marriage of True Minds . . .”

According to critic Annemarie Muth: " ... in “116,” one of the final soliloquies, Shakespeare attempts to define his ideal of constancy in love. Tragically, he is unable to reconcile this ideal with his own experience of inconstancy as illustrated in sonnets “110," “119,” and others. Perfect constancy transcends his own experience. Nevertheless, by the end of the piece he has convinced himself to put his doubts aside and believe that such constancy in love is possible." As such, the critic implies a certain sense of irony arising from his beliefs and how they have actually played out in his experience. Comment on this interpretation, using details from the poem to support or refute her point.

2."somewhere i have never travelled"

Obviously, cummings relies on intense visual imagery to convey his experience of love, but he also uses other devices to, as critic Ryan Poquette notes, "describe everything he is feeling all at once" and that "The poet's goal is have readers experience the depth and potency of his love in the same way that he is experiencing it." Aside from visual imagery, which rhetorical devices/literary elements does the poet rely on to convey such experience? Do you agree with the author in terms of cummings's ultimate goal here?

3.
“Wild Nights -- Wild Nights!"


This poem has traditionally been understood as a brief meditation/ode to a sexual encounter (largely given the use of archetypal images often used to stand in for sex: "Might I but 'moor' -- Tonight --/ In Thee" (Lines 11 and 12) Consider, however, whether this poem might suggest something about a relationship UN-moored by the fetters of marriage. Critic Sarah Ann Wilder offers the following as commentary on the "wife" poems written in the 1860s. While "Night!" is not one of these poems, it does offer a depiction of something other than the typical female marital experience. "Dickinson's own ambivalence toward marriage-- an ambivalence so common as to be ubiquitous in the journals of young women--was clearly grounded in her perception of what the role of "wife" required. From her own housework as dutiful daughter, she had seen how secondary her own work became. In her observation of married women, her mother not excluded, she saw the failing health, the unmet demands, the absenting of self that was part of the husband-wife relationship." Consider "Nights!", then, in a biographical context, explaining how/why this poem might suggest something more freeing and/or open than a conventional relationship.

4.
A Doll House


In a critical essay, Paul Rosefeldt offers the following argument, taking fatherhood as a central analytical concern (when the focus is so often on motherhood in such criticism): “In A Doll's House, fatherhood, ordinarily associated with the authority and stability of patriarchy, is associated with abandonment, illness, absence, and corruption. To support his interpretation, Rosefeldt offers up evidence based on the following select observations:

“Mrs. Linde, Nora's friend, is the victim of an absent father.”
“In A Doll's House, the absent father permeates all classes. When Anne Marie, Nora's nursemaid and the caretaker of her children, gives birth to an illegitimate child, she is forced to take a position with Nora's family and to leave her children. But the absence of child's father lies at the bottom of her plight. She says of him: "That slippery fish, he did not do a thing for me" (155).”
“The polluted father also appears in the father of Dr. Rank, Nora and Torvald's friend. Because Rank's father kept mistresses and contracted syphilis, Rank inherited the disease and was "sickly from birth" (156). Rank must suffer for "somebody else's sins" (163). Rank extends his own condition to the condition of humanity, finding the "inevitable retribution of nature" (163) in every family. Thus, fatherhood itself is connected to universal pollution.”
“Torvald's Helmer is another example of a failed father. He has little to do with his children.”

“Using these arguments as a basis for your own, explain why/how the play’s focus on fatherhood supersedes its examination of motherhood.” OR, conversely, explain why this focus is NOT the best/most interesting/useful context through which to understand A Doll House. If you disagree, you need to explain which interpretative focus you think is the best/most interesting/useful.

5.A Doll House

Critic D.C.R.A. Goonetilleke suggests the following: “It is against conventional middle-class values that Nora rebels. Of course, she has been made to believe that she was happy, that she was an ideal wife, and that her husband loves her, and she was living with the belief that an ideal husband like hers would, if the necessity arose, sacrifice his life to save her reputation. It is these illusions that are shattered at the end.” If this is so, to which values does the author refer? Against which elements of middle-class society might Nora rebel?

6.
A Doll House


The criticism lodged against the play here belongs to Clement Scott, a theater critic for Britain’s (newspaper) The Daily Telegraph. As such, it’s a perfect example of “contemporary cultural context” – Scott reads the play according to the conventions and morals of the day (1889). His overview Ibsen’s scandalous social drama:
this frivolous and irresponsible young person who does not hesitate to fib, and can, at a pinch, condescend to forge; a wife of eight years' standing who changes from a grown-up baby to an illogical preacher; a woman who, in a fit of disappointment, in spite of appeal to her honour, her maternity, her religion, her sense of justice, leaves the husband she has sworn to love, the home she has engaged to govern, and the children she is made to cherish; having introduced us to the sensual Dr. Rank, who discusses hereditary disease and the fit of silk stockings with the innocent wife of his bosom friend; having contrasted the sublimated egoism of the husband Helmer with the unnatural selfishness of Nora, his wife; having flung upon the stage a congregation of men and women without one spark of nobility in their nature, men without conscience and women without affection, an unloveable, unlovely, and detestable crew—the admirers of Ibsen, failing to convince us of the excellence of such creatures, turn round and abuse the wholesome minds that cannot swallow such unpalatable doctrine, and the stage that has hitherto steered clear of such unpleasing realism.
Is Scott’s criticism useful? Do you think it reflects social values of the day? Are the characters really so unsympathetic as Scott characterizes them? Discuss.

7."The Things They Carried”

Consider Pamela Smiley’s interpretation of O’Brien’s central motive: “Herein lies the central project of O'Brien's The Things They Carried: to make the Marthas who stayed home during the sixties and seventies playing volleyball, going to college, reading Virginia Woolf, to make such women understand their brothers, friends and lovers who went to Vietnam. This O'Brien (the author) accomplishes through a series of female characters--Martha, Mary Ann, Lemon's sister, the woman at the reading, and Linda--through whom he de-genders war, constructs an ideal (female) reader, and re-defines American masculinity.”
What do you think Smiley means by “de-gender” war? Why would this be useful, assuming she attempts to offer a gender-neutral vision of war that might be understood without the constraints of gendered stereotypes and limitations? If the story “re-defines American masculinity”, (Smiley) and it has been said that it does in various guises, HOW does it do so?

Tuesday, February 9, 2010

oleanna question 1

1. Consider John and Caril's first interaction (not the entire interaction, but up to the point at which Carol mentions her background in relation to her performance in the professor's class). What do you think is established in this interaction? Who and what do the characters reveal themselves to be? In such revealing, then, do you identify any miscommunication, non-communication, or a simple lack of communication? (In your discussion, consider particularly the "term of art" (701) exchange, the way in which John tells Carol she's failing his class, and/or Carol's offerings with regard to her performance (the language John uses, her socio-economic background, etc.) John uses her socio-economic background, etc.)

John’s and Carol’s first reaction played to be a frustrated student seeking answers from her professor. John clearly seems to be in a state of distraction towards Carol and her problems. Their conversations then shifts suddenly from school to John buying a house; as they continue their conversation shifting back to school Carol’s frustration increases.
John does demonstrate a bit of ignorance to Carol at the starting point of when she asked him to define a simple question and he couldn’t, but he is in the process of buying a new home and I’m sure is mind was elsewhere during the beginning of the act. Carol does perceive as being very demanding yet curious of John’s affairs and time. Their interaction does get too personal with information that a student and professor should not be exchanging; such as Carols economic state, problems and social environment.
John reveals to be a very dominating character as he tries to analyses Carol’s behavior stating her being “angry.” Carol in the beginning truly does seem to want help, but always challenging John’s words in way for later manipulation.
There is Lack of communication, miscommunication, and non communication. Starting from the beginning John’s distractions cause him to be very abrupt and rude (this is demonstrated when he says “don’t you think”) to Carols question of “term of art.” And it seems that they both are confused about one another’s word choices, always question what was meant. As they proceed to her class efforts Carol begins to prove her frustration to the class and almost demands for a passing grade; explaining all that she has done and using her “up bring” as a way to inform John who she is. Although John wanted to work with her, his word choice by say he wasn’t her father, getting personal with her, etc. was inappropriate as a professional.

Monday, February 1, 2010

Oleanna blog question 4

David Mamet’s critically acclaimed play Oleanna, paints a sordid picture of he said, she said. The “victim” is the, presumably, college age student Carol, who is not doing to well in a certain class and desperately wants to turn that around. One way she goes about doing this is by meeting with the seemingly chauvinist professor of the course, John, in his office. During this meeting Carol often times disagrees with John and his perspective on higher education and life in general. Because of these disagreements, Carol reports John to the college board who start to review his job status. In scene two Carol is telling John about the implications and John starts to lose his in charge persona and almost starts to break down emotionally. This is seen when John wants to continue talking to Carol as she leaves and he is left to nothing more than physically restraining her. Scene three plays off of the physical restraint at the end of scene two, and shows Carol accusing John of rape. Throughout the play we receive multiple clues that John is married, has kids and is about to buy a house. The legal implications of rape set John’s world into a tailspin. After being interrupted by a phone call from his wife, Carol tries to correct his personal life by telling him “Don’t call your wife baby” (Act 3). This intrusion sparks something in John and he starts to physically berate her, until he gains composure, and then the play ends. Mamet changes John and Carol throughout the duration of the play. Carol starts out as an innocent student, one that most students can agree with. “I take notes…it’s difficult for me.” (Scene 1) She then turns into someone that sadly some of us can relate to the “victim.” Seeing no way out of her problem, she thinks the easiest way is to give someone else problems. She never talks about life outside of school, just a “group” that is interested in suing John. “I come here… on behalf of my group.” (Scene 2) I think that it is dangerous to feel like a victim too much because; we see here that it leads to us wanting to make someone else the victim. Sometimes it means going to the extreme to give others our grief. John, on the other hand, is at first portrayed as the sort of person that tries to prove that they are smarter than you. This is offset, however, by the continual phone calls John receives throughout the play. Oftentimes it is either John’s wife or John’s friend calling about a house that John wants to buy for his family. By the middle of scene 2 the audience feels almost empathetic towards John. Facing losing his job, this would also means losing his dream house and making life difficult for his family. “But to me it is important. A home. A Good Home.” (Scene 2). This whole dream is dashed when he gives into his own feelings and starts to beat Carol. Mamet is wonderful in painting this picture of John’s character and then turning it upside down and reversing it back to its original shape.As a father, husband and man that is looking to buy a home I somewhat empathize with John. I think that one needs to be very careful in what they do behind closed doors. That, when in a position of authority we need to still respect others and their desires. This still does not make me like or agree with Carol in the least but, after acting like she was the victim, she finally becomes, in reality, the victim. I think that Mamet wants us to think if we are a John or a Carol and what these dangerous personas may lead to.

Oleanna Q1

1. Consider John and Caril's first interaction (not the entire interaction, but up to the point at which Carol mentions her background in relation to her performance in the professor's class). What do you think is established in this interaction? Who and what do the characters reveal themselves to be? In such revealing, then, do you identify any miscommunication, non-communication, or a simple lack of communication? (In your discussion, consider particularly the "term of art" (701) exchange, the way in which John tells Carol she's failing his class, and/or Carol's offerings with regard to her performance (the language John uses, her socio-economic background, etc.) John uses her socio-economic background, etc.)

The relationship between John and Carol is pretty clear from their first interaction in the play. I first noticed John's character to be some what arrogant and overbearing from the phone conversation with his wife about their house. He was constantly cutting off his wife's sentences and trying to be dominate. After John got off the phone with his wife, he then shows again what kind of man he is when conversing with Carol. From my point of view, Carol seems like the perfect victim for John. In that I mean she only empowers his ego because he views her as insure. John acts officiously aggressive towards her and playing on the fact that he is confusing her. The more he confuses her, in his lectures or in conversation, the more she needs his help. Especially in their first scene together when Carol asks about the term "term of art."" JOHN: (Pause) No. I’m sorry. No. You’re right. I’m very sorry. I’m somewhat rushed. As you see. I’m sorry. You’re right. (Pause) What is a “term of art”? It seems to mean a term, which has come, through its use, to mean something more specific than the words would, to someone not acquainted with them … indicate. That, I believe, is what a “term of art,” would mean. (Pause)
CAROL: You don’t know what it means…?
JOHN: I’m not sure that I know what it means. It’s one of those things, perhaps you’ve had them, that, you look them up, or have someone explain them to you, and you say “aha,” and, you immediately forget what…"
This is a perfect example of what sort of character John is. He seems to act like he knows everything and if he does not then he makes something up. He makes an excuse for not knowing or that he does not remember what "term of art" means. I do not think there is a lack of communication, a miscommunication, or non-communication, I believe that John is confused himself and so he tries to mask his confusion by making others confused. When Carol is asking for John's help with his class, he gives her the run-around. He says he is too busy to help her because he has to leave in 15 minutes or so. But when they begin discussing her work, he pays into her insecurity and tells her that she is an incredibly bright girl and that she has no problem with...(class?). Carol then tells him that she has done everything that he has asked of her in the classroom but she is still does not understand and blames it on the fact that she has a different social and economic background and she doesn't understand his language in his book or lectures. She is extremely desperate to pass his class. This is where I think the misunderstanding is. But I still cannot figure out who is playing who. Carol seems desperate to pass his class and this can be seen as she will do anything to do it; this could mean sexual. Then you have John, who is seems to be making it difficult on Carol to pass the class and sees the desperation in Carol. This in turn could mean that he would be willing to take it to a sexual level and he will give he a passing grade.
CAROL: I don’t … lots of the language…
"JOHN: …please…
CAROL: The language, the “things” that you say…
JOHN: I’m sorry. No. I don’t think that that’s true.
CAROL: It is true. I…
JOHN: I think…
CAROL: It is true.
JOHN: …I…
CAROL: Why would I…?
JOHN: I’ll tell you why: you’re an incredibly bright girl.
CAROL: …I…
JOHN: You’re an incredibly … you have no problem with the … Who’s kidding who?
CAROL: …I…
JOHN: No. No. I’ll tell you why. I’ll tell … I think you’re angry, I…
CAROL: …why would I…
JOHN: …wait one moment. I…
CAROL: It is true. I have problems…
JOHN: …every…
CAROL: …I come from a different social…
JOHN: …ev….
CAROL: a different economic…
JOHN: …Look:
CAROL: No. I: when I came to this school:
JOHN: Yes. Quite… (Pause)
CAROL: …does that mean nothing…?"